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According to Epictetus, how should duties be determined between family members?

Epictetus grounds family duty in the relation itself, not in how well the other person plays their part.

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The short answer

Epictetus says duties between family members are fixed by the relation itself, not by whether the other person fulfills their side well. A father is owed the care and deference due to a father simply because he is a father, even if he is a bad one, because you were never entitled to a good father, only to a father. The same holds for a brother who is unjust: your job is to keep your own faculty of choice in line with nature, not to make your duty depend on his behavior.

Key points

  • Epictetus states that duties are universally measured by relations, not by the merit of the person in the role.
  • A child's duty to a father holds even if the father is bad, because the entitlement is only to a father, not to a good one.
  • The same principle applies to a brother who acts unjustly: focus on your own choice, not on his conduct.
  • This follows from the dichotomy of control, since another person's character is not up to you but your own judgment and action are.
  • Epictetus adds that another person cannot hurt you unless you judge that you are hurt, locating the pain of family conflict in judgment rather than in the act itself.

The longer answer

Duties, Epictetus says, are universally measured by relations (Handbook 30). If someone is your father, that relation by itself tells you what you owe him: care, deference in everything, patience with his reproaches and corrections. The duty comes from the relation, not from a judgment about whether the person deserves it.

The common misreading is to think Stoic duty toward family is conditional on the family member being good. On this view, you owe your father respect if he has earned it, and you owe your brother fair treatment if he treats you fairly first. Epictetus rejects this directly. He asks: is your father a bad father? Then he answers his own question: you were never entitled to a good father, only to a father (Handbook 30). The relation, not the character of the person occupying it, generates the obligation.

This follows from the dichotomy of control that opens the Handbook. What is up to you is your own judgment, desire, and aversion. What is not up to you is anything outside your own choice, including other people's characters and actions (Handbook 1). Your father's virtue or vice is his business, not yours to control. Your duty as a son or daughter is yours to control, and it does not change because he fails at his end of the relation. The same logic applies to a brother who is unjust: Epictetus tells you to keep your own situation toward him, to watch not what he does but what you are to do to keep your own faculty of choice in a state conformable to nature (Handbook 30).

This is a hard teaching, and Epictetus does not soften it. He is not saying family members deserve kindness because they will probably reciprocate, or because it keeps the peace. He is saying your role carries the duty regardless of outcome or reciprocity. A son's duty to a harsh father does not depend on the father softening. A sister's duty to an unjust brother does not depend on the brother reforming.

What changes for someone who takes this seriously is where they locate the problem. If you wait for your father to become a better father before you give him the respect due to a father, you have handed him control over your own character. Epictetus's point in the Discourses is that only the faculty of choice, the capacity to desire, avoid, and judge, was given to us as fully our own; body and circumstances, including the people we are bound to, were not (Discourses I 1). A difficult relative is exactly the kind of external Epictetus has in mind. You do not get to choose your father's temperament any more than you choose your own body. What you choose is how you occupy your role toward him.

This does not mean Epictetus asks you to pretend mistreatment is fine, or to have no feelings about it. He gives a sharper diagnosis of the pain itself: another person will not hurt you unless you allow it, and you are hurt only when you judge that you are hurt (Handbook 30). The suffering you feel around a difficult family member often comes less from what they do than from the judgment you layer on top of it, the belief that they owed you better and failed you. Separate the relation's duty, which is up to you, from the other person's character, which is not, and you can keep doing what a son or a sister does without waiting for permission from someone else's failures.

A concrete way to apply this: name the role first, before you judge the person. Ask what a son does, or what a sister does, and do that, independent of whether the father or brother has earned it this week.

Primary passages

Duties are universally measured by relations. Is anyone a father? If so, it is implied that the children should take care of him, submit to him in everything, patiently listen to his reproaches, his correction. But he is a bad father. Is you naturally entitled, then, to a good father? No, only to a father.

Epictetus, Handbook 30 Read in context

The core claim: the relation itself, not the other person's character, fixes the duty.

Is a brother unjust? Well, keep your own situation towards him. Consider not what he does, but what you are to do to keep your own faculty of choice in a state conformable to nature.

Epictetus, Handbook 30 Read in context

The same principle applied to a sibling: watch your own choice, not theirs.

For another will not hurt you unless you please. You will then be hurt when you think you are hurt.

Epictetus, Handbook 30 Read in context

Epictetus locates the pain of family conflict in judgment, not in the other person's act.

Some things are in our control and others not. Things in our control are opinion, pursuit, desire, aversion, and, in a word, whatever are our own actions. Things not in our control are body, property, reputation, command, and, in one word, whatever are not our own actions.

Epictetus, Handbook 1 Read in context

The dichotomy of control underlying the family-duty teaching: other people's characters are not up to you.

Important distinctions

Duty by role versus duty by desert

Epictetus separates what a relation obligates you to do from what the other person has earned by their behavior. The obligations of a son or sister are generated by the role itself, fixed and independent of merit. This is different from ordinary social bargaining, where respect is traded for good treatment. Epictetus removes that bargain from the family relation entirely.

Enduring bad treatment versus approving of it

Keeping your own situation toward an unjust brother is not the same as calling his injustice acceptable. Epictetus's point is narrower: your judgment about how to act toward him is up to you, and you should not let his failure make you abandon your own role. It says nothing about excusing his conduct.

Objections and replies

This sounds like it demands submission to abuse

Telling a child to submit to a father in everything and patiently listen to his corrections can sound like it asks people to tolerate real mistreatment without limit.

Reply

Epictetus is describing the ordinary duties owed within a family relation as he saw it, framed around a father's authority to correct and a child's deference to it. The text does not address severe abuse, and nothing here should be read as advice to endure harm that calls for outside help. The core move Epictetus makes, separating your own judgment and action from the other person's character, applies regardless: it tells you what is yours to control, not that every demand from a family member must be met.

Fixing duty to a role, not to the person's merit, seems to erase the value of good character

If a bad father gets the same duty as a good one, it can look like Epictetus is saying character does not matter at all within the family.

Reply

Epictetus is not saying the father's character is irrelevant to how things go, only that it is not what determines your own duty. His badness is his own affair, up to him. Your duty is up to you, and Epictetus's whole point is that you keep your own faculty of choice in line with nature regardless of what others do with theirs. Character still matters greatly, just each person's own.

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  1. Epictetus, Handbook Primary text, Stoa library